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Sunday, January 07, 2007

Who's a troll? 

You're reading http://msntv.blogspot.com

I wrote a private email to a woman in the tablesnscopes group. She found it necessary to send it to the owner of the group. I'm not posting their emails here, only my own correspondence.

Are you intentionally pushing other threads up, to bury my submission
the stained glass challenge?

It's the 2nd day in a row you've pushed things up, w/out acknowledging
my submission.

I've seen no feedback on my submission from you in the ng. You've
replied to every other entry, as near as I can tell, except mine.

Have I offended you?

The problem is that I think I've offended you. It seems I have, but I'm
not sure why. And the problem is that it appears you might be
intentionally burying my submission.

I'm just checking this out by asking. I don't want bad feelings between
us. And I was discouraged to see my submission buried.

As to giving feedback to others, I was waiting (probably pointlessly,
seeing how busy the ng is) for stuff to "die down." Whenever there's a
roll call thread in a group, it's usually best -- in my experience --
let that fill up first. Then, I go thru the posts and read stuff. Then,
I reply.

I meant no disrespect by doing this. Truly.

Roll call threads get very long and pop back up to the top very
frequently. Lots of stuff gets pushed down. Once everyone has replied
the roll call thread, it's usually safe to resume "business as usual."

I can't tell, in a vacuum, what's going on with anybody. It has been my
experience that it's best if I just ask questions, when I don't know
what's going on. I don't mean anything aggressive or hostile by it, I'm
just looking for some clarity.

I was disappointed and, naturally, frustrated, that my work was
repeatedly disappearing. I was asking to be sure you weren't
intentionally burying it, for some reason. And, if you are, to ask you
why, so I'll know what's expected of me.

Also, since you seem to be the archivist for Tandem Tables, it's more
likely my work could be included there if you actually get to see it.

I don't want bad blood between us. I'm not accusing you, really. I'm
just asking what's going on, so I'll know how to participate in the ng.

I'm sincerely sorry if I've offended you.

I meant no harm. I am not a troll. I am not being disrespectful. I am
positive and supportive.

Charters are difficult to access. I posted mine on a regular basis in
newsgroup. I didn't know how to access yours. And, quite frankly, I
wasn't expecting to be perceived as disruptive or destructive so, I
didn't research the charter.

It's been two years since I've been on webtv or in newsgroups. I have
forgotten much. Despite your comments re: my intelligence and what you
perceive as my "acting other than," I have serious issues with memory.
don't remember much about webtv, ngs, html or anything else re: my
former experiences on webtv. I'm trying to reconnect and relearn

You seem to have come to some pretty harsh conclusions re: my
motivations. My stance is that you are mistaken.

I wish I could have been given the benefit of the doubt.

I approached this entire situation with deferrence, respect and

I have a feeling that you, sewsally, are extremely angry with me.
Nothing I can say will change that. In fact, it will probably just
inflame the situation further.

Perhaps I'm not the only one with a memory disorder. It would appear
others may have forgotten who I am, what I've done and how I've
contributed to table art and to webtv in general.

This is really causing me a great deal of pain. I really wanted to
participate again. I was very excited that I'd managed to put together
table for the challenge, and do it well before the deadline. It's my
first in two years.

I hesitate to state this, as I'm afraid it will be perceived, by those
who may be looking for "evidence" against me, that I'm soliciting pity.

It is suspected that I live with brain damage, caused by severe child
abuse. My memory is VERY faulty. I am mildly dyslexic. I have
difficulties interfacing in social situations.

But NOTHING I have done --or not done-- in this newsgroup has been of
malicious intent. I am TRYING to succeed.

I need to receive a bit of respect and maybe more patience than is

I stand by my reasons for not posting more in the group. I'm not lying.
I'm not making lame excuses.

Is there anyway we can solve this, or am I persona non grata, no matter
what I try to do to improve things?

So far, I'm not feeling at all hopeful.

Joe, I don't understand how you are replying to an email I sent to

I replied to her. Should I forward that sent email on to you?

Now, apparantly, I've inadvertantly offended two people. I was really
only trying to write to sewsally, though.

Sun Jan 7 02:18:11 2007
Mail to Paul Ding The following message was mailed to Paul Ding
Subject:webtv, amish hosting, etc
Date:Sun, 7 Jan 2007 02:18:11 -0400 (EDT)

Ok, we've met over webnuts. You helped me w/my table script.
I've just been kicked out of the tablesnscopes ng because sewsally came
after me, tooth and claw.

I've been trying to figure out why.

Do you own Amish Hosting?

I mentioned, in the ng, that you had tweaked my codes.

Ever since, sewsally kept burying my thread in the ng. I finally
emailed her to ask why.

Long story short: she accused me of trolling AND she brought Joe, the
ng owner, into it without my consent. Joe threw me out.

I've been trying and trying to find out why. Then, I see a thread in
djmike's PHP ng about sally, accusations of arbor hosting kickbacks, a
script of hers that said Amish was offline, hacking.....

I went to Amish and found posts galore from PaulDing. I came to
PaulDing.net and here we are.

I do believe I've been banned from a newsgroup, simply because I
mentioned your name!

Does any of this sound real?

Thanks for your time,

Rogi Riverstone aka the Untouchable sheesh

posted by Rogi  # 1/07/2007 11:38:00 AM
I think you need to look for another explanation; SewSally has never been anything but gracious to me.

She had a script that reported AmishHosting as offline. When a customer pointed this out to me, I investigated and found that there was a network problem, not with users' sites, but with the AmishHosting.com site itself. Once I got the network people to resolve the problem, her script showed the site as being online.

Shortly thereafter, it once again was reporting that the site was down. I thought there must be a problem with her script, until users reported that they couldn't beam files from another domain on the same IP as SewSally's site.

It turns out that there were a bunch of attempted server breakins using that IP, and an automated script on my servers automatically blocked that IP.

It's possible, but not likely, that someone on that server was trying to break in. What's more likely is that there's an insecure script on that server which was being used by a hacker.

When I discovered that server had been blocked, I manually unblocked it. However, when I did that, I pointed out in public that if there are other attacks through that IP address, the script will block them again. I did that because I don't want people to think I have something against them. Even if I did (and I don't), it'd be kinda silly to punish my users because I was mad at someone else.

As I write this, there are 1597 IPs which are blocked from the five servers I care for. Most of them are on other continents. Apparently, hackers think that if they use a proxy server outside the US, the FBI cannot track them. They're dead wrong; the FBI is much better at getting good PR than they are at fighting crime, but international borders aren't much of a barrier.

Now, it's entirely possible that Joe doesn't like me; the feeling would be mutual. I stopped going into his newsgroup several years ago. There was a thread which used an offensive racial slur in the subject line. I pointed it out to him, and he concluded that he didn't have any problem with people using that particular term. I concluded that I would rather not associate with racists, and I never again entered that newsgroup.

So if he's kicked you out of his newsgroup for irrational reasons, it doesn't surprise me.

You asked if I own AmishHosting, and the answer is no. However, I don't want to mislead you; I'm far from unaffiliated with AmishHosting. My wife's company manages the business.

The only site that actually belongs to me is a .us domain I set up about 1995. No, you've never heard of it, and since I started to build an entirely new site there, earlier this month, there's nothing there to see.
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